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Re: PROOF THAT GENETIC ENGINEERING IS DANGEROUS
- To: "vrije lijst" <gentech@gen.free.de>, <notmilkman@notmilk.com>
- Subject: Re: PROOF THAT GENETIC ENGINEERING IS DANGEROUS
- From: "steef van duin" <greenserver@hetnet.nl>
- Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 10:43:23 +0200
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Dear Robert,
With growing interest I followed the discussion between you and Heine. I
have a few questions for you. Please give me more info on the by Monsanto
inspired CLINTON-legislation and the way it works out in your part of the
world (1) and (2) the -let's call it - machinations by which this
legislation was put through and in which states.
Maybe you can enlighten me on these (and possibly other) points, of which I
read many months ago something in The Guardian/The Observer (UK).
My background: I am an economic-historian/ and some of a philosopher. I am
interested in the way technical inventions work out in society: who gets the
best out of it and who doesn't (utilitarian versus egalitarian) and what is
'worked under the table' by profit-maximizing processes of multinationals
like Monsanto. I made (in my own language: Dutch) over years some critical
analyses of the way multinationals are manipulating the worldmarketprices of
food corn/wheat and their ways of 'making' their political influence.
In your case you can disappear for fifteen years in the can, I understood of
your message to Heine. Another example of (in my eyes rejectable)
manipulation and corruption of democratic processes: the reason for my
questioning.
Steef van Duin
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Robert Cohen <notmilkman@notmilk.com>
Aan: Heine J. Deelstra <h.j.deelstra@bioledu.rug.nl>
CC: gentech@gen.free.de <gentech@gen.free.de>
Datum: zondag 24 oktober 1999 0:23
Onderwerp: Re: PROOF THAT GENETIC ENGINEERING IS DANGEROUS
>Heine J. Deelstra wrote:
>Yes, but do you know of any evidence that the epsilon-N-acetyllysine in
>rBGH caused an increase in IGF-1 in milk?
>
>Dear Heine,
>
>You can play this game forever, and of course, my friend, there is
>really no scientific proof of anything. Don't even attempt to play the
>devil's advocate with me on this one.
>
>In order to prove that rbGH was safe, FDA pulished the LANDMARK synpsis
>of bGH research in the August 24, 1990 issue of the journal SCIENCE.
>(Juskevich and Guyer).
>
>I that study, Monsanto and FDA went to great lengths to state that the
>only difference between rbGH and bGH was in the N-terminus (amio acid
>#191 became methionine).
>
>In citing Jerome Moore (Journal of Edocrinology study), the FDA
>scientists explained that a different amino acid in the middle of a
>protein chain would be disasterous, and means for non-approval. Such
>errors occurred in diabetes and Alzheimers and sickle cell anemia.
>
>Little did they suspect that there was an error in the #144 position.
>
>All of the laboratory animals got cancer in the Richard, Odaglia and
>Deslex study.
>
>Can I prove it? Damned right, I can. I have the study. Should I
>release it, spend the next 15 years in a federal prison, thanks to
>CLINTON enacting Monsanto's ECONOMIC ESPIONAGE ACT of 1996.
>
>I helped CANADA turn down the hormone, and I am damned proud of that.
>
>The "famous" 90 day study actually lasted for 180 days. FDA calls the
>second 90 day portion "the reverse phase." That's when all of the
>animals got cancer.
>
>Do I know that the increase of IGF-I was responsible?
>
>Nope.
>
>Do know that levels of IGF-I increased? Yep.
>
>FDA, WHO, NIH, JAMA called normal milk and genetically engineered milk
>indistinguishable.
>
>So much...for truth. :>(
>
>Robert Cohen
>
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