Fw: cloning the dead
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Do you have a response to the seconding letter I posted on
Yes, I think so,
>>but questions like "what is
life", This is very difficult to define under the new aspects of
advance of the Biological and Biochemestry Sciences.
Collegiate dictionary presents 12 different aproaches, such as "The
quality that distinguishes Plants and animals from inorganic or death (??)
organic bodies manifiested by Metabolism, growth, reproduction and internal
powers of adaptation to enviroment". " The Vital Force whether
regarded as physical or spiritual, the presence of wich distinguished
organic from inorganic mather"; both of them represents almost our
conception of life, also wecan include Soul (Inmortal or mortal) in it to
gave it an spiritual vital component.
But as you quote "what is
not-life"? well there is actually a problem, we use to say that viruses
where not alive but were chemical entities, but now, we see that we have
retroviruses that redirect the messages of the genes; also that inclusion of
foreign genes from different especies such as fungi into plantas or fish
into pigs, etc.
We also know different life stages that could be wrong
understanded such as catalepsy ( Condition of peculiar muscular
rigidity in which body and limbs keep any positionin which they are placed)
that many times have been cause of error, also torpor (supended
animation or dormancy or sluggishness or stagnation of function; also
diapause almost similar to torpor; Dormancy of seeds, we have seen
that seeds that have been in the desertc sands of Peru coast for almost 100
years give rise to a forest growth after 1983 El niño rains. Many
Scientist had said that many species wild plant species that used to grow in
the near valleys have dissapeared, after El Niño 83 all of them were
growin in the desert. Also the fungi spores that can remain for long periods
of time are able to give rise to their organisms. And now scientist are
trying to give rise to prehistoric organisms from their
>Where does life "come from"?
It could come from
ADN or ARN suspended animation if some special biochemestry molecule happen
to be around???? or we need to depend in some kind of Big Ban ( we could
call it GOD ????? or what ???).
Now can that egg, without any DNA,
without the ability to reproduce itself,
produce any biochemical
material, be considered "alive? What "evidence" of life does
it manifest? If it is alive, what would it mean if it were to die?
is alive, it is completely anonymous life. isn't it?
Well you are
right in your questioning, we need to have new parameters for our
understanding of all this new stuff, it is not easy to organize at the light
of all definitions
Can anyone tell me what is the "clock"
that starts the process of cell
There are some
genetic and physiological (biochemical) conditions that "trick"
the start of cell division. It is easy to say it but the theory is based in
some rigid parameters to be able to function.
I would take this
division process as evidence of the
presence of "life",
whatever that is.
I dont know but I would prefer to define the
initiation of life with the moment in which masculine Sperm (pollen) nucleus
fuses with ovocell nucleus and give rise to a new cigotic (fecunded egg) and
the new cell division starts to give rise to an organism.
As we can see,
no new life starts, but it is the continuation of parental
Do Biologists actually know what life is?
think so, they are good for rhetorical explanations with plenty biochemistry
to give peace to their consciences and disturb ours